Derek
McGovern has recently sent an email that was forwarded to me asking for
the source of an elusive quotation, one "of those quotations that pops up
everywhere, and yet no one ever provides the source:"
"Christianity
might be a good thing if anyone ever tried it."
Indeed, many dictionaries of quotations include this statement in the Shaw
section, but
everybody seems to have forgotten to provide a source.
My database
does not contain the exact words in this quotation, so for the time being I'll
have to put it in the "Apocryphal" folder. However, there are a few
passages that may have originated the paraphrase we've been looking for.
To begin
with, as other ISS members have suggested, the preface to Androcles and the Lion contains a section entitled "Why not Give Christianity a
Trial?" that
sums up the spirit Shaw's alleged words:
"This
man" [Jesus] has not been a failure yet; for nobody has ever been sane
enough to try his way.
A similar
notion was reported in The Shaw Society Bulletin 48, in an article summarizing "an
address given to the Society by Dan Laurence on November 21st, 1952." In
it, we can read that
"It
was suggested that Shaw had considered Christianity impracticable, but Mr.
Laurence disagreed. Christianity, Shaw had clearly stated, was impracticable
only in the sense that it had never been tried."
Perhaps
Laurence was thinking of the preface to Misalliance ("A Treatise on Parents
and Children"), where
Shaw literally states that Christianity has never been "put into
practice:"
"It is
true that the Bible inculcates half a dozen religions: some of them barbarous;
some cynical and pessimistic; some amoristic and romantic; some sceptical and
challenging; some kindly, simple, and intuitional; some sophistical and
intellectual; none suited to the character and conditions of western
civilization unless it be the Christianity which was finally suppressed by
the Crucifixion, and has never been put into practice by any State before or
since."
This does not necessarily mean that Shaw thought that really trying Christianity for the first time would be something good. In the preface to Getting Married, Shaw puts it in classic Shavian style:
"There is no more dangerous mistake than the
mistake of supposing that we cannot have too much of a good thing. The truth
is, an immoderately good man is very much more dangerous than an immoderately
bad man: that is why Savonarola was burnt and John of Leyden torn to pieces with
red-hot pincers whilst multitudes of unredeemed rascals were being let off with
clipped ears, burnt palms, a flogging, or a few years in the galleys. That is
why Christianity never got any grip of the world until it virtually reduced its
claims on the ordinary citizen's attention to a couple of hours every seventh
day, and let him alone on week-days. If the fanatics who are preoccupied day in
and day out with their salvation were healthy, virtuous, and wise, the
Laodiceanism of the ordinary man might be regarded as a deplorable shortcoming;
but, as a matter of fact, no more frightful misfortune could threaten us than a
general spread of fanaticism."
Therefore, it is clear that the idea was put forward by Shaw on several occasions, and it was processed by the Shavians of this world - perhaps to the extent of choosing a deliberately "Shavian" wording, however inaccurate. All in all, however, I think I prefer Shaw's choice of words when, during one of his lectures, a clergyman in the audience rose and asked him: "Are you a Christian?" He responded: "Yes, but I often feel very lonely." (As quoted in Vivian Elliot's Dear Mr Shaw: Selections from Bernard Shaw's Postbag, pp. 269-70).
There have been no comments here, and that is unfortunate. You have written a concise and useful essay on a topic that has bothered me over the years. That quotation, "Christianity might be a good thing if anyone ever tried it.", never sounded quite right. The lack of source citations in many quotation books and websites is a constant font of confusion, and wrong information persists seemingly forever on the internet.
ReplyDeleteAnother oft-misstated adage applies ...
"Falsehood will fly, as it were, on the wings of the wind, and carry its tales to every corner of the earth; whilst truth lags behind; her steps, though sure, are slow and solemn, and she has neither vigour nor activity enough to pursue and overtake her enemy…"
http://quoteinvestigator.com/2014/07/13/truth/
Thank you for taking the trouble to provide such an entertaining and informative post. Regards, RJP.
Why, thank you for your kind words. They mean a lot, especially because my blog has a rather narrow scope (although Shaw by himself is a vast field of study concerning quotations) and it receives attention from fellow Shavians mostly. Still, it is nice to hear that something you do just for fun actually interests someone. Thanks!
ReplyDeleteInteresting how quotes get paraphrased and then popularized. The way I heard this one is "Christianity is not a failure. It has never been tried." which seems to be conflation of Shaw & Chesterton: “The Christian ideal has not been tried and found wanting. It has been found difficult; and left untried.”
ReplyDeleteThanks for your comment. I think you may be on to something with the Shaw-Chesterton thing.
DeleteAs we are having old style Protestant Bible preaching services in the George Bernard Shaw Room in William Morris House, Wimbledon, I found this post very interesting.
ReplyDeleteWow! Lots of Shavian references in that building. I wonder what Shaw would have thought of having that kind of meeting in a room named after him. At any rate, I'm glad you enjoy the quotation and the post at large.
ReplyDeleteActually the closest sentiment to the quote you try to get at is by GK Chesterton .
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